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Gracie Abrams on How Writing With Her BFF — And Lessons From Taylor Swift — Made Her A Standout Songwriter


Gracie Abrams, Billboard's 2025 Women in Music Songwriter of the Year, on her songwriting process, Taylor Swift's advice to her and new music.

Sitting in a sun-drenched room at Los Angeles’ Beverly Hilton, Gracie Abrams is shaking her head “no.” She’s reflecting on a breakout 2024 — during which she scored her highest-charting Billboard Hot 100 hit to date and received her second Grammy Award nomination, for “Us,” a collaboration with none other than Taylor Swift. After humming the song’s in-the-works hook and melody for months, she and her songwriting partner and roommate Audrey Hobert finished it in about 15 minutes one day after “laughing our asses off on the roof” of New York’s Electric Lady Studios. Such wins have helped Abrams, who co-wrote and co-­produced every track on The Secret of Us and its deluxe edition, earn the Billboard ‘s 2025 Women in Music Songwriter of the Year honor — but, with characteristic humility, she won’t say she’s mastered the craft just yet.

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