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‘Thunderbolts*’ Director on That Credits Scene, Shame Rooms They Didn’t Use and Making a Marvel Movie About Depression: ‘I Don’t Want This to Be the Weird One’
"Thunderbolts*" director Jake Schreier talks about the post-credits scene, what Bucky and the Red Guardian's shame rooms would've been, and making a summer blockbuster about depression.
For John Walker (Wyatt Russell), it’s sniping at his wife and neglecting his crying son in the aftermath of his disgrace during the events of 2021’s “The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.” For Valentina Allegra de Fontaine (Julia Louis-Dreyfus), it’s witnessing her father’s murder as a young girl. In the film’s final act, the Thunderbolts discover these memories are caused by Bob’s transformation into the all-powerful superhero Sentry and his self-nullifying alter ego, the Void, who begins subsuming New York City and all its residents into total darkness. [Screenwriter] Joanna [Calo] picked up on that and took it even further in terms of getting back to that initial room that we find Yelena in in the beginning of the movie, and making that this callback of the idea that the greatest shame of all was thinking that you could be something bigger than yourself, that his aspirations towards heroism are actually what brings everything down and that you need to learn to be OK with who you are without that.
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