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Pod Save America host Jon Lovett doesn’t seem particularly comfortable with being a public figure. He went on Survivor anyway.

Instead of letting this slide, Lovett said to the secretary of Transportation, “Frank Kameny did not protest in front of the White House so that you could ignore my jokes during Pride, Pete.”) Although he’s become a proper public figure over the years, he has managed to maintain an unusual level of control over his image. “At the time, I don’t think I would’ve voiced it out loud, but the fact that a bombastic, very smart, very cunning, nude gay man was about to win this thing, my closeted gay brain really latched on to it.” Whichever version of “Jon Lovett” emerges from the Survivor editing room will be discussed on Rob Has a Podcast ’s multiple weekly episodes dissecting each episode of the show, be voted on in the Survivor Reddit’s “Player of the Week” polls, and become either a beloved icon or a supervillain to the show’s fans on X and TikTok (with them, there’s rarely an in-between). He was nervous at first — “I was afraid to do it for reasons I couldn’t even express, because if I had said them out loud, I would realize I didn’t believe them: They’re all going to laugh at you kind of thing.” He did it, and it was fine, but talking to me about it, he couches the story by adding that “it’s not some defining or even remarkable or important act.” There’s a push-and-pull thing going on, one that he doesn’t seem to have figured out himself.

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