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‘Hacks’ Creators on That Finale Twist and Deborah and Ava’s Relationship: ‘It’s Arousing That She Has a Worthy Opponent’
The creators of 'Hacks' break down that Season 3 finale twist and how Deborah and Ava's relationship has evolved.
In our conversation, they addressed the May 30 finale and other events throughout the season, the evolution of the Deborah-Ava dynamic, and why — if only subliminally — Deborah finds Ava’s heel turn “arousing.” Because it is a novel thing, especially in this time of “Oh, we got her wrong.” Now, executives would say, “Let’s do that, because it’s noisy.” I think when Ellen DeGeneres’ [sitcom] was canceled, no one was like, “Oh, an openly gay woman is going to be a daytime talk show host, and win all these Emmys.” Not in this world! Touching on other events late in the season, it interested me that the penultimate episode took place on a college campus, and involved conversations about “cancel culture.” I’d been wondering if that particular perspective on comedy would ever enter the show.
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