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Janelle James on Seeing ‘Sinners’ Three Times and Changing Ava’s Line in ‘Abbott Elementary’ Finale: ‘I Know This B—. I’m Protecting Her’


Janelle James discusses Ava’s growth on “Abbott Elementary” and why she wants to be in Ryan Coogler’s “Sinners” sequel.

As Ava Coleman — the bold, messy, and meme-worthy principal of ABC’s “ Abbott Elementary ” — James has turned what could’ve been a one-note punchline into one of TV’s most delightfully unpredictable characters. In this episode of the Variety Awards Circuit Podcast, James discusses advocating for Ava’s voice, drawing on her personal life to shape her performance, and why Ryan Coogler should cast her in the next “Sinners” movie. Variety’s “Awards Circuit” podcast, hosted by Clayton Davis, Jazz Tangcay, Emily Longeretta, Jenelle Riley and Michael Schneider, who also produces, is your one-stop source for lively conversations about the best in film and television.

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